Showing posts with label Marc Andreini. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Marc Andreini. Show all posts

Tuesday, April 17, 2012

an unusual circumstance

before matt calvani had faith in me, i commissioned ye ole blackstoke the 1st. a strange thing that day... perhaps i shouldn't say this. yet i am compelled. before i say what i am about to say... recall the title of this blog post.


upon delivery of ye ole blackstoke the 1st, mr. Andreini said:

"if you don't like it, i'll make you a new one, just trade this one in".


now... to a employed Human like myself, i thought:

' whatever, like I'd ever take you up on that'.


when the blackstoke was delivered i had a sesh with Marc. during that sesh, i felt the board was frictionless paddling, extremely fast, and very controllable from the nose portion of the board. however, the turning capacity of the board didn't sync with my approach that session. then, shortly after that I received a different board from someone else. that board caught my attention. i shelved ye ole numero uno.

then my boy hakenzeemander called me. i knew his approach would syncwith this board. well, i called it. after a strong go at ye ole numero uno....he now is frequently shredding one of marc's boards...a poor boy. in other words... i let my brother shred the fuck piss out of ye ole #1. after shredding and shredding and shredding my board, he ordered a new one from marc. my buddy is tough on decks. worse than me. in fact his nodules on his feet are legendary.

he blasted my board, yet i had the gumption to call mr. andreini and request that new one.

well, evidently Marc honors his word. behold ye ole numero dos!!!!



Thursday, June 16, 2011

9'10" of swine perfection FOR SALE!!!!!!!! $800

I have ridden this board. my buddy let me borrow it, i went out and bought one, just like that. i let my buddy borrow mine, he went out and bought one just like that. this board and the two other owl's i mentioned will be at the pig roast saturday! (speaking of owl, there is an amazing write up that michael kew authored in the upcoming slide #19 due to hit the stands later this month.) back to the matter at hand... this board is crazy. its the type of board that....if you were to be blindfolded stroking rails, you'd stop once you stroked this board, and buy it. the board paddles super fast, trims amazing , you can direct this board from up on the nose. check out what the shaper, marc andreini has to say about pigs . to purchase this board, email Mr. E at tels@earthlink.net




Tuesday, March 22, 2011

marc andreini!!!!

marc sent me this via surfapig@live.com: Here is the 10' pig I keep at my house as a wall hanger!(thanks michael kew for the photo!)
he describe the board below: Here are a few of a pintail spoon!
marc's shapes are so clean! the first pic took me back. I have seen little glimpses of that board he is holding...but that shot...the board pops! then these two of the spoon. SUPER CLEAN!!! that red stripe just seems so right! Marc is super STOKED!!!


Marc mentioned he might have a pig he could shoot some photos of and post up here as a board for sale. It is currently at a shop, I sure would be stoked feature it here also.


sounds like i'll be posting a blue fin Jim Phillips pig up for sale here soon. NICE!


Gene has a 9' red fin FLEX coming up VERY SOON. OH MY!!!

Thursday, December 23, 2010

don coleman and the andreini pig!

don coleman sent me this via surfapig@live.com:Dear Mr Black As an avid reader of your blog and inspired by your Stoke I got myself an early Xmas gift.. Pintail hippy pig with a slightly more forgiving snout. Sorry about the crappy phone pics but I was too stoked waxing her up to start digging through cupboards for a camera.. 9'6x 22.5 x 3... Marc is an amazing guy!Merry Xmas and a peaceful new year!Cheers - Dom Coleman
yes!!! VERY NICE!!!

Thursday, July 29, 2010

marc andreini and "blackstoke"

i got me a new hat!
the battery on my other camera was low...so i shot the below video with my phone. imovie wasn't letting me upload it. hence it is sideways. like i give a fuck. i am in awe. i will take proper pics of this new board soon. i will post them up accordingly.
the video below gives you another perspective of this beauty just before i waxed her.
i saved the battery in my other camera for the session. here is that video. it is marc and my buddy Tim surfing sliders with me.

NICE!!!!
marc dropped these two 12 footers off with my buddy tim and steve. i would have been in this photo if i hadn't had a "honey do" list. what a photo! thanks Tim!

Sunday, July 4, 2010

just a tease.

marc sent me this. what a tease!

Sunday, June 13, 2010

mike's andreini pig.

this is what this blog is all about. michael sent this to me to me via surfapig@live.com: Hi Mike Well - this beautiful board was brought to my attention by your good self on jam longboards a few weeks back- i spoke to marc about it and as ever he was very helpful. Despite the cost to ship to the UK I went ahead and it now sits in my garden after it's second session out - WOW! As promised a quick write up and a few pics. First session ankle to knee high and clean but didn't learn a great deal about it except that it is a refined beast and will go well in the small stuff. Today was another story - 4.30 a.m. and out at our east coast reefs in the UK it was head high plus and glassy perfection - me and 2 friends with no one else out - this board is amazing - the drive from the fin is just incredible - turns are smooth like butter - pivots excuisitely - it's got a wonderful glide to it - just everything i could ask - I make no excuse - i was whooping on pretty much every wave - a true kook but loving every minute - i think my friends understood what was going on. This is my second Owl pig - the first i bought second hand and whilst i loved it - at 9'11 it was just too much board for me at 5'9 and 150lbs. I've since been looking (nearly 2 years now!) for the perfect replacement and at last here it is - 9'5 by 22 - 3" thick with thin (not pinched) rails - it just feels SO right - Marc Andreini is (in my opinion) the most under rated shaper around - he just seems to get it so so right. Looking forward to seeing yours when it's completed. All the best, Michael


holy chit!

Tuesday, May 25, 2010

marc andreini ...pig discussions...

o.k. where do i begin? marc andreini's stoke is difficult to measure and is quite contagious. my first introduction to the way of marc was back on 99 or 2000. i was around the "beach house" and he made putnam a 7'11" vaquero. some how i acquired it after kp. i owned the second vaquero marc rebuilt. at least that was the story i heard about this particular board. i hated it. i could not figure out how to ride it. it wouldn't swing from a drop knee ( there is no weight ), it wouldn't drive from the front foot, and it was not responding to my back foot on top turns. i was lost. i am a complete and utter kook to the way of this type of board. i kept it around for those days that didn't require much more than sliding in the barrel...cuz that was all i really knew how to control the thing in. so...time passes...i roll with the morrusk crew. there are andreinis all over the place. none of the designs scream " heloo mr. black..i am a board you lust for..i am a board that will fit your mind" they do say " heloo mr. black.. i am a board that is well designed...i am a board that shreds...i am a board that other people understand " . i mean look at marc's lines. his power, his mana is in the simplicity. he purposely does not over complicate his boards. marc is a proven surfer and contributor to our obsession. i am humbled by his availability.
After I finished the Jazz the Glass article in issue 14 of SLIDE, ryan gave me an opportunity to submit something else. he nonchalantly mentioned "you aught to write an article about pig boards". that hit me hard. i have something to say...yet my mind does not eloquently...nay...grammatically diffuse (non mathematical) ideas. i went into my little corner and put my thinking cap on. i know some rad dudes...people that were there when pigs were first birthed ... i have friends that are knee deep in modern pigs ...I am blessed to have Gene Cooper in my life...i have this blog where people all around the planet contribute awesome information about pig boards...i love pig boards.
back to ryan proposing this article. i get fairly excited. i think to my self "man! i made lance's web page..he'll contribute some great info. I know so and so..they probably have something to say!" i was quickly consumed by the shear intensity of this article. i was fortunate to have the opportunity to get aquatinted to the likes of greg noll, mickey munoz, bing copeland, and david platt. so many people generously ... enthusiastically ...came forward. humbling... i have had conversations with lance that were awe inspiring. i am SO LUCKY to have experienced time with him, and to have heard what he has to say about pig design. he toiled over my pig. lance is passionate about design and craftsmanship. he is a true artist. i only wish i had a tape recorder for some of the conversations i have had with lance. Gene....gene contributed some eloquent, concise knowledge for this pig article..i was so grateful for that.
back to marc. during the preliminary stages of this article , i reach out to EVERYONE i know..and ask them about pig boards, or rather "who should i ask about pig boards?" my good buddy john mcCambridge said "talk to marc andreini". so i did. feee-YUCK am i grateful i did. FEEEEE-YYYYUUUUCCCCCKKKKKK!!!!!!! jah praise john mcCambridge and marc andreini! then when marc hurt himself earlier this year....anyway...before his injury i had contacted him and asked him about pig boards... you have to understand..he doesn't know me from ANYONE. I contact him and ask him some questions about pig boards. straight scientific method shit. bland shit. after speaking to marc i had passed the same questions by T-muck-luck...and he made fun of me. he said my approach was limiting. thank JAH! he said that. i probably would have been limited by logic otherwise. T-moe's contributions effected my approach to all other contributors.. however..with marc...i emailed him 4 or 5 questions. marc takes the time , and writes...and draws the below shit for me. COME ON!!!! fuck. actually he hand wrote it and gave it to his wife and had her type it. she typed it and left room for the drawings. eventually marc sends me a large envelope full of this shit. you KNOW i am going to frame it and put it on my wall. this shit is the sacred shit. it is so sacred i am not going to threaten to take it off of surfapig after some time. i transcribed this writing for the article...we had so many contributors, re-iterating some of the same stuff...i couldn't include most of Marc's writings. heck...truth be told ...marc's contributions could have been the article. anyway. here they are marc andreini's "pig discussions". pardon the shitty photos. my transcriptions of his writings follow:

the term "Pig" refers to the fat rear end for starters!!! Basically this design became the first "full finned" board where the fin evolved from Tom Blake's first runner:


(insert first hand drawn sketches here) into a bump into a "skeg" 10" x 10" deep!


the larger fin kept the board from sliding out in steep sections or larger waves, which is why they (fins) kept getting progressively bigger. Since the original surfboards were finless they required straighter outlines in the tail for speed and holding. The addition of a fin created a hold from tail sliding but simultaneously created a stiff or hard to turn situation. To compensate the tail out line was curved into a "rounded back" template which allowed the board to "turn around the fin" if you will.


Alaia: Finless to first runner: straight outline from chest to tail, flat rocker lets board run straight ahead full steam while trimming.


(insert second sketches: waikiki and Alaia)


Hotcurl: Flatter bottoms in the tail were faster but slid more, so Blake's runner/keel helped some.


(insert third sketch: hotcurl and blake's runner) Hot curls used rounded botom to hold in tail.


Quigg, Downing, Woody Brown, and Simmons continued to evolve foiled rails, smooth sleek outlines, larger fins coupled with flatter down rails in the tail and belly and increased rocker forward for lift, speed and ability to bank the board over during turns. during this period (early 1940's to late 1940's) outlines still used a squaretail with no hips in the template back by the fin as a carry over from the finles era. The fin allowed the surfer to turn and maneuver without fear of spinning out or "sliding ass" and therefore became standard equipment by the early 50's. Maneuverability was enhanced by the conversion to balsawood in the 40's and 50's/ Between the new light weight and no fear of spinning out, the new generation of rippers were throwing turns at will and hot dogging started to bloom. Dewey Weber, Phil Edwards, Miki Dora, and Mickey Munoz took these machines to legendary levels.


Enter Dale Velzey! Dale was open to try just about anything that he could think of to see how it would work. His boards were primarily balsa and built in the 50's in Manhattan Beach, down the street from Malibu. The combination of light boards, warm water, small performance waves and youth with idle time and girls on the beach led to the demand for more radical maneuvers. The straighter outline template in the tail made the board stiff and hard to turn, but Dale figured it out! It is said that his glasser glassed the skeg on the front of a rounded -nose board by accident.


(insert 4th sketch: nose! more curve)


They decided to leave it that way and see what it would do! (editors note this is the board Mickey Munoz rode first) To everyone's surprise, the board was effortless to turn and would not spin out! More importantly, it was good on the nose and was still fast! Up to this point in time it was believed that the back end of a board needed straight lines in order to maintain speed. this alleged "accident" shed light on the fact that curves do not impede speed, but can actually enhance it by letting us place our boards precisely in the best part of the wave which generates the most power (which equals speed). Well, the tail didn't make a very good-looking nose on that board but the concept stuck and the pig was born!


(insert 5th sketch: before pig after pig)


Basic design elements of a Pig:


Typical Dimensions:


nose: 15 1/2"


5" behind center = 21"


tail = 16"


tail block 5 1/2"


length 9' to 10'


fin 1 1/2" inch up from tail 10" high with 10" base


rocker 3" in the tail 3" in the nose


thickness = 1 5/8' nose , 3" in the mass, 1 3/4" tail



Primary design elements:


the nose is wider than the tail


wide point behind center 3' to 5"


fin set right on tail


low rocker


semi flat bottom and tail


60-40 rails throughout



The benefits of the aforementioned design elements:


Increased outline curve in tail allows greater, even radical, maneuverability. Trim speed is unaffected. Wide tail planes up quicker at slower speeds. Wide tail stabilizes the nose and the added curve helps hold the tail, which opens the door for nose riding! Overall the Pig design is best suited for small waves. Due to the wide tail the board really turns well at slower speeds, and planes up quickly. Lend itself well to radical turns and cut backs in small performance waves. As the long board era emerged from the prior trim based speed boards into the early 50's, the "Pig" design introduced what we now think of as the long board era. Everything we associate with "long boarding is tied directly to the Pig's whip turns, drop knee turns, nose riding, and trimming. All with supreme style of course!


The greatest surfing images of the post modern generations come to us by the masters riding Pigs: the Kemp Aaberg arch of Rincon; the radical drop knee cutbacks of Dewey and Phil; Miki climbing and dropping at the Bu; the bottom turns of Johnny Fain; the El Spontaneo of Mickey Munoz; Phil hanging ten; Nuuhiwa at Huntington; Lance Carson at Malibu, etc.

As long boarding progressed into the 60's the modifications were few:

*more slender fins with rake (thanks to Greenough)

*more parallel outlines caused by wider noses for easier nose riding

* a little more nose and tail rocker to help turning and avoid pearling


These variations took place from the birth of the Pig in about 1950 to the end of the long board era in 1967 1/2! The history of the transition from longboards to short takes place between 1967 and 1982 with the introduction of the standard thruster. I would like to address this period at length but that is another story and another book. Suffice it to say, the design elements of the "Pig" have carried over into the modern surfboard as the basic platform for performance:

*wide point back pushes curve into tail

*nose is narrower than tail, helps keep it out of the way

*fin/fins set on tail for supreme holding

These results are duplicated: wide curvy tail creates lift at slow speeds; curved template makes tail loose and compensates for the stiffness created by the fin/fins. Same result: a great hot dog design. Further enhancements are few. First, a brief transition history: the vee bottom with a Greenough fin started the revolution, a short version of the pig with Vee in the tail for quicker turns, (Bob McTavish) in 1967. By 1968 the mini gun of Dick Brewer moved us back to the Makaha based designs of Woody Brown with a tear drop template (wide point forward, narrower tail than nose, down rails in back, up rails in the front) for speedier, larger waves. The mini gun was a smaller version of the Makaha, as the Vee bottom was a smaller version of the Pig. both designs benefited from the Greenough fin and dropped tail rails of the Makaha.

Score:4 for the Yanks (Velzy, Greenough, Brewer, Woody) Score 1: for the Aussie (McTavish). In 1971, Wayne Lynch pulls the nose in on his Vee bottom hull so the nose is narrower than the tail. This brings back less hang up on the late takeoffs and makes for better turning. It was called the "no-nose" design. In 1981, Simon Anderson adds a third fin to his twinnie so he will stop spinning it out. He put the third fin right on the tail! Three fins on the tail made the board stiff. So, that was cured by combining the no-nose template with the wide point back which pushes the curve of the template into the tail to loosen up the turns. At the same time, the pulled nose stays out of your way on the late drops, while turning and while tube riding. That is two more points for the Aussies: Wayne Lynch and Simon Anderson.


All of these ingredients mirror the break through of the Pig (i.e. boards planes up quickly at slow speeds, great maneuverability with curvy tail, lots of fin area keeps board from spinning out). The ideal hot dog board!


Long Live the "Pig"!


marc surfing a pig style board above.







p.s. marc introduced me to mike marshall (r.i.p.) and mike introduced to me EVERYONE in order to get this article finished.

a pig is born!

marc andreini sent this to me via surfapig@live.com: "The birth of your pig last night!"
and for this I have many expletives racing through my mind...not from a lack of a vocabulary...but rather from a certain appropriateness for the situation. HOLY CHIT!! PHUCK!! PHUCKING Feee-YUCK!!!

collection

i have always wanted to try a fin like this. i almost ordered my bing with one of these. this is an Owl.
concerning the fin above ...i received and email from tim out of the UK via surfapig@live.com he had actuall saved some photos from my blog, or he had some photos of marc with a board that had a fin like the one above (actually ...i think it is the same board)...i am not really sure what the deal is with the pictures...here they are:

in his email me , he asked me what the deal was with the fin. so i emailed marc. below is the email exchange between tim and I and marc: Hi Mike ,I've just checked your blog and wanted to say that I saw this a while back and haven't been able to get it out of my head since . If you can find anything out about the fin idea I would love to hear it . Loving the blog , keep it up .Tim then i asked marc and he responded: These are life's most important questions! That board is a replica of my OWL from 65'. The board is still a basic pig with a "D" fin. However, hollowing out the center was an early attempt to reduce area. It proved to much work for the shop and the "Dolphin" style fin quickly became standard on all mid 60's boards shortly after. They are called a "Flo-Thru Fin" and they worked excellent. They feel like a D fin but go through the soup better and actually release coming out of a turn. I still use them on occasion! below is that andreini i posted up here earlier. this is the (lack of ) rocker profile of that board.
the below picture is the same one the masked dude is holding. where as the first picture is an entirely different board. CRAZY!!

below are the flothru fins and the Phi-n fins david town and i collaborated on: scroll through to see all that are offered!

Sunday, May 23, 2010

Friday, April 30, 2010

owl from marc andreini

lead better, pig, and stoke. NICE!!!

Sunday, April 25, 2010

pig slide at SLIDERS!!!!!

the surf was very nice today. the texture of the water was just right. the size and shape proclaimed: "YE SHALL RIDE THE LOG!!!" and that i did. so did my buddy tim of sliders. i really love this wave.
i have this strange attraction for symmetry. the depth and fractal nature of this fence is EPIC. i had been thinking about how to get the pattern of the chain link fence in such a way as to honor the pattern. i got it with this one. you have to love phone cameras.
walking up and seeing this. how do you think your session is going to be?
talk about fundamental fractal.
obligatory A frame.
reeds.
as randall rodstoker would say "so clean."
my board blurring by me this morning on the walk down. thanks be to tom of sliders for sliding my board down.
neat little flowers.
check this video. there were so many EPIC waves going by unridden today.
to say i had fun out there is a massive understatement. it was a day where you could relax and really drive your board through top turns a bottom turns. late stand up style off the bottom, like you were matt howard or something. i had a few INSANE curl shots. it was a day where it felt like all the waves were coming to me. i even went left a few times today. i got out of the water due to a feeling of guilt. i felt bad that i was ALWAYS in the right place. it was a great day.

Monday, March 15, 2010

Kevin Davenport and some SWINE!

kevin sent me these via surfapig@live.com. "Chris Jones in Newquay (he used to shape Bilbo in the early days her in the UK). The other board is an Owl by Mr Andreini love that one and regret letting it go; love the blog nice one."

NICE!!

Thursday, October 22, 2009

friends are good.

after a productive day at work and after taking care of my darling...i stopped by a friend's house on my way to the evening glass and borrowed a board. not that i am short of boards...but rather my buddy has a particular board that i have been dreaming about. let the record show Marc Adnreini knows a thing or two or three or four or five or six or 7 or 8 or more about the pig shape....what a lucky time and space i occupy...NICE!!!
thank you Tim!!

Tuesday, August 18, 2009

Saturday, July 4, 2009

Tim Elsner : MY NEW ANDREINI OWL

Tim speaks on it below:
"Owl Surfboards are a huge part of Marc Andreini's surfing DNA. From hanging out with his brother Pete at the Owl shop in Summerland, getting his first custom board from Owl in 1963, to representing Owl Surfboards up and down the Santa Barbara coast as a team rider, to eventually building the boards! Marc was there through it all and he's still there, building these beautiful Owl replicas."
THE OWL SHOP IN SUMMERLAND 1965

Marc surfing for Owl at a local Stanley's contest.

When I was able to speak with Marc at some length after seeing (and lusting after) this "Golden Log" at the recent Ventura Sacred Craft Show, he was able to convey to utter joy of riding one of these boards again after so many years. The traits and nuanced characteristics of this design have to be experienced to fully understand. Andreini is one of the most truly skilled, experienced board builders in the world. For me the qualifier for a shaper is the ability to be open to and be able to make any type of board. With a planer. From a raw blank. There's not that many out there. You have to haved spanned a few generations and design eras to absolutely understand the different boards. And add on to that the passion for these somewhat obscure genres. Marc has made me Vaqeros that are the result of 35 years of refining that type of craft. The boards are flawless but certainly not for everyone. Which brings me back to my new Andreini Owl replica. It's been 45 years since I've ridden a board like this one but in the last two days of first trial week it feels like I've come home. The weight, rocker and plan shape put you in a different part of the wave. Up tight and high on the face, right in the curl line. And unlike a wider "nose rider" outline, the speed and trim is mind blowing. Once again I have to say that these boards are not for everyone. They really are not that "user friendly" in a modern long board sense, the learning curve is steeper. But like most things that are a little out of step and closer to "pure", the rewards are great. I'm stoked!!! Surf A Pig ....... Some Andreini links:
http://www.surfnwear.com/index.html
THANKS TIM!! Below are pictures of this "Golden Log"! SO NICE!! I surf with Tim. I find myself staring at that board often. It is 9'10" X 22"








Tim also has this "Son of Sam" replica I shot.




Thank you for sharing TIM!!!