it feels great to have Jazz the Glass shrink wrapped. it feels great to be performing well at work. it feels great to have a healthy and happy wife. it feels great to do a nice cutback on a COOPERFISH BLACKBOARD.
such a great shot. mr. black, you really seem to enjoy the blackboard. it looks to be a really capable board. i've been reading the blog since last november. i'm really inspired by the equipment! i've recently had the pleasure to cross path's and speak with dane perlee about building a board. and i'd for sure like it to be a pig. i thought i might run my ideas by some enthusiasts and get some feedback while things are begining to set up. i'm sure on the nose 17 1/4, tail 16 1.4, 3" thick, hips more aft, soft round rails, belly(more at the hips and less fwd) and glass with weight. i'm just curious about tails. i really enjoy nice, big tail blocks. like 6". are certain tail shapes more conducive to the style pigs are ridden? anyway, a second opinion always helps. i'm really inspired. and so is dane. just would like to have some more knowledge and to get the wheels in motion before i go to the boat and don't surface for two months. really enjoy the blog. thank you.
thanks for the question. i like a wide tail block too. with a wide tail block...its my belief you need to have a D fin pushed back on the tail. that is assuming you have the right combo of rocker and belly. i'll say this...a wide tail block with a 16.75 tail and a 17.25 nose is going to seem like a fairly parallel template. a 17.25 nose is good for transitioning from the standard nose rider width of 18 or 18.5...but with a pig ...you get the action of the nose ride as a consequence of the tail staying in the water. the tail stays in the water from the width and the D fin. a wide nose counters the action of the tail staying down. its strange to describe..its my position that a nose on a wide point aft, D fined board shouldn't be more than 16.5 to 16.75. so long as the board is under 10 feet or so. a wide nose along with certain rail and bottom configurations are designed to create a "lifting" effect of the nose. if you have a board designed to "lift the nose" and simultaneously designed to "keep the tail down" ...then ...it has been my experience... that the nose no longer is lifting up the face...but rather the nose is "washing out" . this wash out occurs from the tail not moving around when the nose wants to climb. a narrow (16.75) nose with a full-ish 50 50 rail combined with a slightly rolled bottom is the best for a wide tail block combined with a 16.25 tail. this is assuming your board is between 9'6" tp 10'
thanks for the support sub_al i hope this made sense.
mr.black, thanks for the quick response and the info. it does make sense. relying on rail and tail for suction and lift rather than the more common(what i am guilty of) using volume to basically stall and hold. i took the demensions from a bing pig. i've always like bing. it just seems so wild that a 16.75 nose will hold a rider and not topple over. seems so hardcore. that's what the pocket is for i guess. i'm not doubting this by any means. we've just had "the bigger the better" in terms of noses fed to us. but i can only imagine the feel of that kind of lift. and i was thinking going around 9'8". i kept going longer for a while. but it's a good medium to me. also, do you feel like pigs are limited in conditions? they're perfect for lined up waves. but, i'm in WA. it can get a bit choppy especially in the winter. i really do appreciate the info. and the jazz the glass ad f---ing cracks me up. great surfing in it too.
i enjoy my pig in every thing from knee high clean peelers to well over head bowls...that is not to say it is the BEST suited board in said conditions...i believe the dimensions in the BING catalog are flawed. i point it out to margeret. i don't know if that is where you got that dimension...check http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZDpqrhytF_A/Sje0vESyMeI/AAAAAAAAATQ/90skHuaJz-c/s1600-h/pigordercardblog.jpg
happy tuesday.
such a great shot. mr. black, you really seem to enjoy the blackboard. it looks to be a really capable board. i've been reading the blog since last november. i'm really inspired by the equipment! i've recently had the pleasure to cross path's and speak with dane perlee about building a board. and i'd for sure like it to be a pig. i thought i might run my ideas by some enthusiasts and get some feedback while things are begining to set up. i'm sure on the nose 17 1/4, tail 16 1.4, 3" thick, hips more aft, soft round rails, belly(more at the hips and less fwd) and glass with weight. i'm just curious about tails. i really enjoy nice, big tail blocks. like 6". are certain tail shapes more conducive to the style pigs are ridden? anyway, a second opinion always helps. i'm really inspired. and so is dane. just would like to have some more knowledge and to get the wheels in motion before i go to the boat and don't surface for two months. really enjoy the blog. thank you.
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ReplyDeletethanks for the question. i like a wide tail block too. with a wide tail block...its my belief you need to have a D fin pushed back on the tail. that is assuming you have the right combo of rocker and belly. i'll say this...a wide tail block with a 16.75 tail and a 17.25 nose is going to seem like a fairly parallel template. a 17.25 nose is good for transitioning from the standard nose rider width of 18 or 18.5...but with a pig ...you get the action of the nose ride as a consequence of the tail staying in the water. the tail stays in the water from the width and the D fin. a wide nose counters the action of the tail staying down. its strange to describe..its my position that a nose on a wide point aft, D fined board shouldn't be more than 16.5 to 16.75. so long as the board is under 10 feet or so. a wide nose along with certain rail and bottom configurations are designed to create a "lifting" effect of the nose. if you have a board designed to "lift the nose" and simultaneously designed to "keep the tail down" ...then ...it has been my experience... that the nose no longer is lifting up the face...but rather the nose is "washing out" . this wash out occurs from the tail not moving around when the nose wants to climb. a narrow (16.75) nose with a full-ish 50 50 rail combined with a slightly rolled bottom is the best for a wide tail block combined with a 16.25 tail. this is assuming your board is between 9'6" tp 10'
thanks for the support sub_al i hope this made sense.
mr.black, thanks for the quick response and the info. it does make sense. relying on rail and tail for suction and lift rather than the more common(what i am guilty of) using volume to basically stall and hold. i took the demensions from a bing pig. i've always like bing. it just seems so wild that a 16.75 nose will hold a rider and not topple over. seems so hardcore. that's what the pocket is for i guess. i'm not doubting this by any means. we've just had "the bigger the better" in terms of noses fed to us. but i can only imagine the feel of that kind of lift. and i was thinking going around 9'8". i kept going longer for a while. but it's a good medium to me. also, do you feel like pigs are limited in conditions? they're perfect for lined up waves. but, i'm in WA. it can get a bit choppy especially in the winter. i really do appreciate the info. and the jazz the glass ad f---ing cracks me up. great surfing in it too.
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ReplyDeletei enjoy my pig in every thing from knee high clean peelers to well over head bowls...that is not to say it is the BEST suited board in said conditions...i believe the dimensions in the BING catalog are flawed. i point it out to margeret. i don't know if that is where you got that dimension...check http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZDpqrhytF_A/Sje0vESyMeI/AAAAAAAAATQ/90skHuaJz-c/s1600-h/pigordercardblog.jpg